tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8219781724285312648.post2671796617412350157..comments2024-01-25T05:05:26.688-08:00Comments on Stuff Apostolics Like: #211-Vanity, vanityJoel Rileyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15449770157998900843noreply@blogger.comBlogger37125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8219781724285312648.post-67621422407103252452023-07-26T14:51:26.124-07:002023-07-26T14:51:26.124-07:00Some women choose to cut their hair, some choose t...Some women choose to cut their hair, some choose to not cut their hair. Some women choose to wear pants and some choose to wear skirts. Some women choose to wear jewelry and some choose not to...makeup also. What I don't get from these comments is if God looks at the heart what does it matter if someone chooses to look differently than you during your spiritual journey. No matter what you feel or what your opinion is, I believe God would much rather we all LOVE one another as He loves us. We all can do and be better than what I have read in these comments. I pray we each seek Jesus and learn to love as He does.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8219781724285312648.post-55225707340907221932021-02-26T09:11:24.843-08:002021-02-26T09:11:24.843-08:00Absolutely love this....
Question what about clear...Absolutely love this....<br />Question what about clear polish nail hardener or chalice to help nails grow?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16030142923664882703noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8219781724285312648.post-15130802464167960522018-03-31T15:44:18.520-07:002018-03-31T15:44:18.520-07:00I honestly didn’t read any good news out of this. ...I honestly didn’t read any good news out of this. The gospel is the “too good to be true news”! Here’s the good news, you can cut your hair, wear pants, make up, jewelry and still go to heaven. Anyone that says otherwise will only try to make a doctrine out of one scripture. Religious Pharisee’s proclaiming how holy they are because of a picture they are trying to paint for the world to see. God looks at the heart. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8219781724285312648.post-58733403709880191522015-03-25T20:57:35.214-07:002015-03-25T20:57:35.214-07:00Great blog! Totally agree, I have been brought up ...Great blog! Totally agree, I have been brought up in this apostolic truth and have seen alot over the years. Here are a few bible scriptures,<br />"Because it is written, Be ye holy; for I am holy." 1 Peter 1:16, <br /> " Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord" 2 Corinthians 6:17<br /><br /> "What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's." 1Corinthians 6:19-20<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8219781724285312648.post-22026577696861630732013-01-04T07:36:01.975-08:002013-01-04T07:36:01.975-08:00Man doesn't look on the heart, that's righ...Man doesn't look on the heart, that's right. But isn't it best to dress modest so ppl notice something different about you? And also so you don't make a man lust? And men should not wear what women wear and women should not wear what men wear. Also, there is nothing wrong with getting a perm or putting your hair up real pretty. And the flowers are not jewlery they are more like an accessory if you pin them on your shirt. (such as glasses or sunglasses) or they will be more like a hair clip when putting them in your hair.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8219781724285312648.post-31998990300548392732011-12-14T17:22:11.744-08:002011-12-14T17:22:11.744-08:00Seriously, does it really matter if you cut your h...Seriously, does it really matter if you cut your hair or not (some of the women need to cut their hair because of how dead and fried it is), whether you color it or not, whether you wear a ring, watch, earings or not. It's what is inside of the heart that Jesus sees. <br /><br />It's not Jesus or the bible that convicts, its people who convict and try to shove their beliefs down the throats.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8219781724285312648.post-72744756445882684442011-01-03T17:47:34.416-08:002011-01-03T17:47:34.416-08:00I would like to more nuance my point. To say that ...I would like to more nuance my point. To say that standards are not bad, they are good. There are things that are wrong and must not be done. There are things that are right and must be done. It is the way that we communicate and even think about standards that is deeply flawed not the existence of standards. <br /><br />We can think about standards as a series of laws. This is easier to do, and they can simply be transmitted from one generation to the next as the laws; but this is the flawed system that we have. Originally these laws were created in hours or someone's mind based around a series of principles and morays taken from the Scriptures and from the society in which they dwelt. Wile the Scriptures do not change society is in flux and the laws devised to interact with the society as it was may no longer be valid to interact with the society as it is and as it will be.<br /><br />We could instead think about standards as laws that are recreated, from the principles and morays of the Scriptures and society, every time they are called on. This way the laws are always fresh and appropriate to interact with the society in which we find ourselves. But there comes a price; it is far harder to teach the next generations how to create the standards by which they are to live.Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03663422761575645498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8219781724285312648.post-39744640330234228392011-01-03T09:49:36.930-08:002011-01-03T09:49:36.930-08:00i go to an apostolic church and i think it is craz...i go to an apostolic church and i think it is crazy to be saying colored nails are wrong and to justify the pink and white nails. whats the difference. they are all nail polish changing the colors of your nails. i personally have been judged for wearing colors and i have took great offense. i even had someone give me pink and white for christmas to encourage me to change. i think it is a personal decision and people are too concerned about others apperance. it should be about the heart. and if one is convicted, do what you feel you should do, but do not judge others for not having the same convictions or justify your look because its more natural.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8219781724285312648.post-19419113690965619532010-12-23T05:59:29.221-08:002010-12-23T05:59:29.221-08:00Keep trying to "earn" salvation by follo...Keep trying to "earn" salvation by following a set of "standards" that are man-made. News flash...Jesus looked just like the average male of his time/culture...know who he didn't look (or act) like?...those claiming to be religious and holy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8219781724285312648.post-25051762234180403802010-12-16T10:23:54.332-08:002010-12-16T10:23:54.332-08:00Well said John. I personally do not like to use th...Well said John. I personally do not like to use the word "standards" - it reminds me too much of the law. And we all know that covenant passed away.....brianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04645721459934514487noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8219781724285312648.post-5106803468765324042010-12-15T20:55:50.950-08:002010-12-15T20:55:50.950-08:00I thought it interesting that my pastor spent half...I thought it interesting that my pastor spent half of tonight's Bible study speaking on the necessity of knowing the principles behind the standards.<br /><br />There may be hope yet.Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01401970289278394055noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8219781724285312648.post-34131601371421652952010-12-15T08:02:18.627-08:002010-12-15T08:02:18.627-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01401970289278394055noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8219781724285312648.post-39455622665366427702010-12-15T08:01:15.443-08:002010-12-15T08:01:15.443-08:00I see three problematic narratives going on within...I see three problematic narratives going on within the discussion of standards. The first narrative involves how we teach the younger ones the standards which they should follow. The easy way to do this is to decide which things are right in which things are wrong and to teach the younger ones rules. This makes sense for children since they tend to lack the cognitive ability and the wisdom to decide many of these things on their own. The problem is that the rules are easier to teach than the fundamental thought process that created them and since the youth were maintaining a godly standard as they grew into adulthood the elders saw no reason to teach the underlying principles that created the roles. To be honest this was probably never a cognitive decision; the elders likely thought that the principles were picked up by the youth as they learned the rules. Times change and rules that were set and quite appropriate for one time may no longer be valid for a new time. There was a time in the 60s and 70s that beards and red shoes represented pimps and prostitutes but that is no longer the case. And in the opposing direction there is now more things you can do to your fingernails than simply nail polish. So now beards and red shoes are abstained for no reason and all manner of things are done to one's nails so long as the word nail polish is not on the bottle. The narrative that is needed is for every saint to learn the principles of holiness as a youth and to apply them afresh every few years.<br />The second problematic narrative is that of the monolithic church. It is human nature to believe that if two people are doing something differently then one of them must be wrong. We think all people as being the same yet though we are equal in worth being the children of God we are not equal in life experience, intelligence, attractiveness, social skills, wealth, athleticism, health, or really any other metric we wish to compare individuals. This is the discrepancy between treating people equitably and fairly but at this point I digress. Each one of us lives in a world where we interact with a certain group of people, live by a certain group of cultural norms and expectations and have a given set of demands placed upon us. Some of the principles of holiness that the Scriptures teach us, such as to love and the avoidance of lust, transcend the worlds in which we live in. However, other principles are links to the world in which we live and since we do not necessarily live in the same world as our brother than the rules we developed from those principles will not be the same. One can easily imagine worlds in which wearing the suit would be costly attire or to not wear a suit would to be disrespectful.<br />The third problematic narrative is that of the speed limit debate. The local municipality sets the speed limit on any given road. As a citizen we have very little say in what that speed limit is so when the municipality chooses a speed for a road that we do not agree with we do not try and change it. Instead we drive at the speed we believe should be set for that road and complain about the cops. As members of the apostolic community we have very little say as to the standards we are to follow. So when there's a standard that is an anachronism or non sequitur we disregard them and sometimes find technical loopholes in order to feign compliance. We do this since trying to change an out of date rule has consequences; remember the schism of 08 when the WPF split away from the UPCI. The problem arises when a standard is valid but we lump it in with the anachronisms and non sequiturs. Or when times change and we do things that we should not since there is no rule against them. So we randomly create rules to live by and hope they are good enough.Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01401970289278394055noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8219781724285312648.post-1490028949259696982010-12-14T18:31:18.334-08:002010-12-14T18:31:18.334-08:00Maybe, some of this things will not take you to he...Maybe, some of this things will not take you to hell ( fake nails, perms,etc..) but coming from someone not raised in church I can tell you that a lot of churches are starting to look more like the world that the holy separated priesthood we have been called to be! You waste your time defending why you get fake nails or why you permed your hair or whatever but to a sinner you look the same as them! The core of the matter is that we need to look different, because we are different! We are the children of God... a peculiar people... forget all this trying to look like the world because it will be easier to win the sinner! NO, that is not what they want! Standarts are NOT rules they are fences! Fences keep things in BUT they also keep things out... and @ the anonymous person before me... WHO CARES? I do! I had fake nails before I came to God and to most of us that were not raised in church fake nails don't belong in church! I really think that if we concentrate on JESUS, He will show us what is right! We need to let the Lord develop in us the convictions that we need to be a "SEPARATED PEOPLE" I love the Lord and my desire is to please Him in all I do!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06661440846213395693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8219781724285312648.post-80152593441900574232010-12-13T21:21:37.613-08:002010-12-13T21:21:37.613-08:00WHO CARES!!?????? Are you not going to be taken in...WHO CARES!!?????? Are you not going to be taken in the rapture for having fake nails???? I don't think so! I've been in church my whole entire life I have them its not a big deal they aren't hot pink with dollar signs on them just a simple white tip it looks clean and neat. People need to stop knit picking standards and just get into the word of God living a life of Worship and you'll look like what you are supposed to a shining light for Jesus!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8219781724285312648.post-72249943736180954642010-12-11T22:22:08.318-08:002010-12-11T22:22:08.318-08:00@amy
totally agree!
standards are not meant for se...@amy<br />totally agree!<br />standards are not meant for sermon material<br />that is a topic you should speak to your pastor or pastor's wife privately about<br />visitors dont need to hear about all our "rules" they need to hear about Jesus and his redeeming blood!Katie Machttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01434390598379491203noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8219781724285312648.post-62655901315073758622010-12-11T22:19:13.248-08:002010-12-11T22:19:13.248-08:00wow, i have grown up in church and get frustrated ...wow, i have grown up in church and get frustrated by standards and it is hard when we start playing "it doesnt say in the bible game" <br />but take a bite of this:<br /><br />When God inspired the writers of the bible to write what he did, he is smart and if you notice, things that are NECESSARY for salvation are layed out very clearly because that will NEVER change<br /><br />on the other hand, standards in the bible have some things laid out (like not puttin a razor to your hair) but make-up and clothing things are not so clear because the norms change throughout the times. In jesus's time men wore robes and sandals.....that would be considered homosexual now and innapropriate<br /><br />When it comes to standards for men and women I personally think that is left up to personal conviction of your pastor who was appointed by God and put over your specific church for a reason and knows how to cater to the needs of his sheep.<br /><br />platform issues are always going to be more strict because you are portraying the very heart of what runs this place and have a responsibility of worship leading which is very important, so you should have more "rules"<br /><br />but i do agree specifically with the nails thing, and other strange things that dont seem that they should be "allowed"<br /><br />but if we keep biting at eachother about what we think is right then we lose focus of WHY we keep our standards!<br /><br />We keep our standards (however strict or not strict they may be-according to one another)<br />to be SEPARATE and HOLY in the eyes of God.<br /><br />just because you wear skirts to the ground, never wear harispray or anything in your hair and have shirts two sizes too big with sleeves covering your untouched finger nails, but you hate God in your heat means absolutely nothing to God!<br /><br />standards are important yes! very important! but our relationship with God is more important and the close we are to him, the less we will want to dress unholy and we will automatically have the standardds God wants us to have.<br /><br />Love fulfills all the law!<br />so if you truly love God and are sensitive to his voice in your life, everything (including standards) will fall into their proper place.<br /><br />Let this girl have an opinion and stop freaking out on her! its a blog. were allowed to have personal thoughts.<br />:]Katie Machttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01434390598379491203noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8219781724285312648.post-32723737391338706302010-12-10T20:23:00.741-08:002010-12-10T20:23:00.741-08:00Thank you, JP. You could pass for an @slapastolic ...Thank you, JP. You could pass for an @slapastolic writer.Brittanyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18178653218718313439noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8219781724285312648.post-48680903830078397352010-12-10T16:34:48.259-08:002010-12-10T16:34:48.259-08:00It absolutely IS a heart thing. And the real ques...It absolutely IS a heart thing. And the real question is why oh why do we still place so much emphasis on the outward appearance? I am also born and raised apo, and I'm not speaking in terms of this article, just in terms of the church in general. We hear more sermons about cutting hair, makeup, jewelry, and such, then we do about inward holiness. Where did we get so off track? Why did my pastor blast lip gloss and turn a deaf ear to gossip? <br /><br />Again, this certainly is not saying anything at all against this article, I quite enjoyed it!! She did a great job, but clearly through her humorous post, she struck a very real chord.Amynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8219781724285312648.post-90535965416001631752010-12-10T15:41:23.792-08:002010-12-10T15:41:23.792-08:00The words "unnatural" and "fake&quo...The words "unnatural" and "fake".. Why is "gettin your nails did" so wrong? All the ridiculous looking stuff Pente girls stick in their bun is fake and unnatural as well. Heck, hairspray is unnatural. <br /><br />Quote: "I still do not see the reason why Pentecostal girls feel fine wearing fake nails."<br /><br />We can't single out one fake thing because a group doesn't understand why some girls want it and some don't.<br /><br />How about this.. we rule out all fake articles.<br /><br />Clothes must be 100% natural (cotton, wool, etc). That is going to limit those brand new gorgeous stilettos..<br /><br />No artificial (fake, unnatural) hair products.. No hairspray, no Got 2 Be Glued, etc... Wear your hair like the good Lord made it..<br /><br />No watches... If they aren't made of a pure substance from mother earth then we can't wear them...<br /><br />I think you get my sarcastic point... <br /><br />100% Apo Pentecost here... Born and raised... Our problem is that we write articles like this and we don't write articles about about going out and getting the people that have all these things we stand against..<br /><br />It's not a outward thing.. It's a Jesus thing.. And when He is in, of course the outward will shine.. But that has nothing to do with your nails, your hair, or whats on your wrists, fingers or ears... It's always has and always will be a heart thing...JPnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8219781724285312648.post-24603324496211238342010-12-10T13:31:45.211-08:002010-12-10T13:31:45.211-08:00Speaking of loopholes, I knew this girl at Bible c...Speaking of loopholes, I knew this girl at Bible college, who wasn't allowed to cut her hair, so she woke up with bangs one morning, and claimed she had cut it in her sleep! She blamed sleep walking instead of just being honest about her lack of conviction... lol... classic! Actually, I think people judged her more for that little story than they did for cutting her hair, cause loads of girls did the latter anyway.Ishtahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17452530593729443319noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8219781724285312648.post-59661825259488195852010-12-09T23:32:37.345-08:002010-12-09T23:32:37.345-08:00I had the same idea a while back when I wrote this...I had the same idea a while back when I wrote this post: http://www.aaronmatthew.com/blog/?p=413Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8219781724285312648.post-54745047666074838522010-12-09T18:19:19.654-08:002010-12-09T18:19:19.654-08:00I don't really see that anybody missed the poi...I don't really see that anybody missed the point of her article...and we're all posting with the knowledge that this isn't a church tract or an online witnessing tool. I think we're all commenting with the same spirit that she wrote her article - Which is lovingly pointing out things that perhaps are inconsistencies within our churches, and doing it with a splash of humor.Amynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8219781724285312648.post-56059116660533025392010-12-09T16:29:37.405-08:002010-12-09T16:29:37.405-08:00Wow.
Ok, what the purpose of this blog and this p...Wow.<br /><br />Ok, what the purpose of this blog and this particular post is, is to satirize nuances within our movement. Marissa is a new blogger so you guys probably aren't quite used to her style.<br /><br />You're right, this post didn't mention Jesus. Know what? This blog isn't an online tract, ran by a church or organization, or anything of that nature.<br /><br />The post and comments are pointing out the irony behind what people SAY versus what people DO!<br /><br />Did she try to convince anyone there was something wrong with fake nails? NO! Can you read?<br /><br />She pointed out, the IRONY behind women who aren't "allowed" to wear nail polish, so they wear fake nails instead!<br />There's no argument made here in favor of anything! It's a call out!<br /><br />I swear some people read at a fourth grade level on this thing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8219781724285312648.post-24015065901676897032010-12-09T10:06:14.843-08:002010-12-09T10:06:14.843-08:00You are exactly right! When we start talking abou...You are exactly right! When we start talking about "standards" the thing that ends up not being mentioned is Jesus. Which should be the very reason we do *anything*. But I would venture to say that lots of us (myself included on several things) abstain from doing things (like fake nails) just because my pastor doesn't want me to do it. Is that okay?Amynoreply@blogger.com