tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8219781724285312648.post4692292315729518035..comments2024-01-25T05:05:26.688-08:00Comments on Stuff Apostolics Like: #150-Holy Magic Hair (sort of)Joel Rileyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15449770157998900843noreply@blogger.comBlogger193125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8219781724285312648.post-81900239588953933332021-02-12T03:08:32.477-08:002021-02-12T03:08:32.477-08:00Where the spirit of the lord is there is liberty i...Where the spirit of the lord is there is liberty it says. Its not sin to trim it i don't think.. So it does say her hair is a covering so long hair is in biblical recommendation. Now... about praying over someone with your hair well anything is possible if your anointed <br /> prophecyfire/ D. gansmannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00420979532644165267noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8219781724285312648.post-39718564503985103322014-09-23T10:19:51.167-07:002014-09-23T10:19:51.167-07:00Amen and Amen !Amen and Amen !Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8219781724285312648.post-77522989432421642152014-09-23T08:47:48.478-07:002014-09-23T08:47:48.478-07:00That's just it ! The bible doesn't say not...That's just it ! The bible doesn't say not to cut your hair ( nowhere ) it says it's a shame for a woman to have her hair shorn ( shaven past tense ) how can one even obey the scriptures translated in English when they don't even know English terminology to start with ??Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8219781724285312648.post-62904340399471003012013-12-12T18:37:33.352-08:002013-12-12T18:37:33.352-08:00For nearly 1900 years, Christians interpreted this...For nearly 1900 years, Christians interpreted this passage of scripture to mean that women are to cover their heads. Nuns cover their heads, Martin Luther's wife covered her head, John Knox taught that women should wear a head covering. It wasn't till the early 1900's that Christian women gradually stopped wearing headcoverings when praying or prophesying. This Holy Magic Hair Doctrine is complete heresy and the UPCI is an apostate denomination. Everytime you hear a United Pentecostal say they are apostolic, know that it's a lie. The UPCI is not a restoration of apostolic Christianity, they are Pentecostals not apostolics. Apostolic Christianity is what you read about in the New Testament, and the practices and beliefs of the UPCI are not in line with Apostolic Christianity as presented in the New Testament.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8219781724285312648.post-37007417071431805202013-12-12T18:31:39.107-08:002013-12-12T18:31:39.107-08:00Do you people realize that the main point of 1 Cor...Do you people realize that the main point of 1 Corinthians 11:1-16 is that women should cover their heads with a literal headcovering? Yes like the muslims, the Mennonites, amish, etc. 1 Corinthians 11:1-16 is not even about hair. United Pentecostals who try to make this passage of scripture about hair are missing the whole point. This passage of scripture is about headcoverings. At the very end, Paul essentially says, doesn't even nature itself teach you that women should cover their heads, because even nature has given them a headcovering. True Apostolic Christian women wear a literal headcovering when praying or prophesying. Paul says that a woman who does not cover her head is the same as a woman whose head is shaved, but if it's a shame for a woman to cut her hair or shave her head, then she needs to cover her head. As in with a literal headcovering like muslim, Mennonite, amish women wear, etc. According to Paul, UPCI women who boast about having uncut hair are no better than women in the world who cut their hair, because no UPCI women wear a literal headcovering.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8219781724285312648.post-63333858261490190702013-12-02T10:24:36.200-08:002013-12-02T10:24:36.200-08:00Don't worry, you won't lose a child or hur...Don't worry, you won't lose a child or hurt your family from cutting your hair. This is called superstition. These people are charlatans and the fear your discussing is the fear by which they rule. Don't give them that control over your life. Life your life as best as you see fit, following God's word as best you know how. Seek out your salvation and don't let anyone else come between you and your God. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8219781724285312648.post-33209209602649866022013-11-30T06:00:55.774-08:002013-11-30T06:00:55.774-08:00This is something that Im misunderstanding bout my...This is something that Im misunderstanding bout my churches view on cutting of my hair. It made no sence at the time i was taught and still....Im upset to say Ive not been able to find the truth of protection or not from not cutting. Pushed into wondering that God would rather have me in pain of migraines due to heaviness of my hair.....to protect my family. They hafta deal with an unhappy, short fused mom or wife cuz Im in pain. Its not making sence but i dont wanna b wrong and cut it and loose another child or hurt my familyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8219781724285312648.post-34964347330091373172013-09-20T09:48:50.124-07:002013-09-20T09:48:50.124-07:00A woman's hair is her obedience. Whoever relat... A woman's hair is her obedience. Whoever related to power in prayer through fasting did a great job because it really is the same. Your hair and your clothes don't make you holy or magic. Its your the spirit we allow to dwell in us that makes us holy. But it is our protection (reguard) and our glory. But WE GET THAT FROM OBEDIENCE. I can see where people have trouble understanding things they haven't studied out when its more complex. BUT what is clear cut and simple is not sewing discord among the brethern. Why would you ever want to denounce someone who is bringing so many people to God? Even if YOU think its not full truth? Yes a half truth will send someone to hell faster than no truth. But people who are hungry for truth once they get a half truth will start looking in the word and studying for themselves and search full truth. Because that's where its at. not in your view or my view. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8219781724285312648.post-90108021532817949402012-02-06T00:40:39.797-08:002012-02-06T00:40:39.797-08:00i grew up a teen in upc..the not trimming the hair...i grew up a teen in upc..the not trimming the hair,,no makeup and no pants was hard for me,,some of it i can kind of understand..the principle that a woman should not dress like a man..so if i did not follow those outward rules then does this mean im not pentecostal or just not upc pentecostal..i had to eventually leave to another church that wasnt so strict in areas..im not happy about it then or now all the way cause i like the upc church..the way they use to flow in the gifts of the spirit at our old small church...maybe this new generation of teens can bring some revival on issues inside upc...it should be about life in the spirit...prophecyfire/ D. gansmannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00420979532644165267noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8219781724285312648.post-51604621537688514582012-02-06T00:32:13.561-08:002012-02-06T00:32:13.561-08:00did i get off the subject..back to the hair..the v...did i get off the subject..back to the hair..the video,,well that was the way that preacher sees it..but he did try to uplift empower women with it and i have not seen that attitude in upc specifically long time..so i did like some other parts he spoke on it..in relation to women being powerful in prayer,,but i can respectfully disagree yes...that the power is because the hair is long..is hard for me to percieve but then again there are mysteries in the spirit.......it may seem foolish to us but is it true??..my logical side would say no but then again the mysteries..of the spirit does what he wills....i also liked how he said that a boy finds his identity in the mother,,its just the opposite in the worldly viewpoint is that a boy has to get identity from the father...prophecyfire/ D. gansmannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00420979532644165267noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8219781724285312648.post-61027054945065355042012-02-06T00:10:44.675-08:002012-02-06T00:10:44.675-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.prophecyfire/ D. gansmannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00420979532644165267noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8219781724285312648.post-55745412308497387182012-02-06T00:04:28.021-08:002012-02-06T00:04:28.021-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.prophecyfire/ D. gansmannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00420979532644165267noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8219781724285312648.post-4918519281622141922012-02-05T23:56:24.829-08:002012-02-05T23:56:24.829-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.prophecyfire/ D. gansmannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00420979532644165267noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8219781724285312648.post-55329741850627001462011-11-09T18:25:14.033-08:002011-11-09T18:25:14.033-08:00Oh Brittanie, you're so cute.Oh Brittanie, you're so cute.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8219781724285312648.post-13799804675139854392011-10-28T23:00:37.978-07:002011-10-28T23:00:37.978-07:00THIS WHOLE WEBPAGE MAKES NO SENSE TO ME!! I'M ...THIS WHOLE WEBPAGE MAKES NO SENSE TO ME!! I'M AN APOSTOLIC PENTECOSTAL AND THIS WHOLE WEBPAGE IS OFFENDING ME!! WHY DO YALL CARE IF WE CUT OUR HAIR OR WHY SAY WE THINK IT'S "MAGICAL"???????? A WOMAN'S HAIR IS HER GLORY!!!!!!!!!!! I'M KIND OF SIDING WITH THE ANONYMOUS PERSON!!!!!!!!!! AND LUCIFER HAS NOTHING IN COMMON WITH JESUS, ESPECIALLY NOT BEING HIS "BROTHER"!!!!!!!!!! HE IS EVIL AND JESUS IS NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Brittanie Sidebottomnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8219781724285312648.post-2891732162898673982010-09-15T16:27:19.264-07:002010-09-15T16:27:19.264-07:00allow anonymous comments and it starts again. Appa...allow anonymous comments and it starts again. Apparently they (the anonymous) are to inept to create a google account under a false name. LOLJohn Wallacehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18153959648148129015noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8219781724285312648.post-63793665106769584522010-09-15T15:55:14.968-07:002010-09-15T15:55:14.968-07:00Who said I care?Who said I care?Joel Rileyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15449770157998900843noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8219781724285312648.post-21378182647229166562010-09-15T13:07:59.123-07:002010-09-15T13:07:59.123-07:00Just a question why do you care so much if a woman...Just a question why do you care so much if a woman cuts her hair or if she doesnt.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8219781724285312648.post-80289143917084627032010-09-15T11:59:02.554-07:002010-09-15T11:59:02.554-07:00O no, anonymous. Please stop. I hope they won'...O no, anonymous. Please stop. I hope they won't see this. They will come for you. THey will find you. They will give you a wedgie maybe.<br /><br />What I am saying is that whatever your response you are about to get, for your own health and not wasting hours debating, please don't respond to whatever you see (including this comment). <br /><br />Know this, You are correct. We all have opinions. You are entitled to yours. The entire post I wrote was fiction. made up. haha. You get it? Big joke. Run. Just Run.Joel Rileyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15449770157998900843noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8219781724285312648.post-51437218266226089552010-09-15T11:49:49.008-07:002010-09-15T11:49:49.008-07:00To those who don't believe in power of prayer ...To those who don't believe in power of prayer being in womens uncut hair, so what you don't believe it. There are people out there that do. Some people love football, some don't. I think we can agree God gave us opinions and I think where you are wrong is your urging to disgrace and make fun of those that believe to have uncut hair. That is not being in Gods grace.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8219781724285312648.post-17476683489494047672010-06-04T08:44:33.124-07:002010-06-04T08:44:33.124-07:00I am an editor for Christian.com which is a social...I am an editor for Christian.com which is a social network dedicated to the christian community. As I look through your web site I feel a collaboration is at hand. I would be inclined to acknowledge your website offering it to our users as I'm sure our Pentecostal audience would benefit from what your site has to offer. I look forward to your thoughts or questions regarding the matter.<br /><br />Vicky Silvers<br />vicky.silvers@gmail.comUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07367955155674661552noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8219781724285312648.post-36289971014417525542010-05-30T21:34:47.310-07:002010-05-30T21:34:47.310-07:00First, it's not "my site" anymore th...First, it's not "my site" anymore than it's "your site." I'm not an administrator, nor have I ever met any of the owners of this site. <br /><br />Second, the logic of "messenger over message" is precisely how I defined as "idiocy" that has come out in some "drive-by" posts here. <br /><br />Third, I do not believe nor even try to pretend that a website replaces the community of believers, fellowship, sharing communion and corporate worship. I don't know Glen. I share more in common with Glen than I do anything else.Leenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8219781724285312648.post-22300942894636427982010-05-30T08:38:58.884-07:002010-05-30T08:38:58.884-07:00Lee, let me make a point here then I completely r...Lee, let me make a point here then I completely retire this futile attempt. It doesnt do much good to condemn people who disagree with you as attacking you personally, and the SAL mantra condemn the messenger rather than debate the message, and then turn around and regard to those opposed to you and this site as "shooting idiocy out of their mouths." And this isnt unique language from your side on this site, it has been riddled with that rhetoric since the first day I noticed your site. So even though I am not a podiatrist, the shoe you describe, fits you, if not better, at least just as well.<br /><br />I dont require a thank you from you for Glen, the things I have said to Glen have been heartfelt. I certainly hope that you guys are doing all that you can to uplift him, encourage him and help him find a congregation where he can feel welcomed and a part, because as incredible as you may think this site is, it is no replacement.T Rnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8219781724285312648.post-55055330364339567832010-05-29T22:07:55.284-07:002010-05-29T22:07:55.284-07:00TR your agenda is clear. Thank you for stopping by...TR your agenda is clear. Thank you for stopping by. <br /><br />You respond with more generalities and assumptions about me as a person, inferring what I do/don't believe. If you have an axe to grind about my personal ideas concerning the so-called "doctrine of evidentiary tongues" let's have that discussion. But to bottle it up and try to frame it as a picture just takes it too far. <br /><br />I won't even respond to your charges against me of being "angry, disagreeable and stubborn" and I'm not even sure that wouldn't apply to you thus far. Like all the others you have an issue with the site as a whole, and are disabled from contributing to the site apart from that. <br /><br />Yes, person-to-person discussions are much more preferred. As far as we know you are a dirty rotten sinner and hypocrite. But there is a certain beauty in having open discussion with open information. So take what you read with a grain of salt. Read it as content and slow down trying to character assassinate people and assign motives. I know, it's sort of a "hands-tying" for certain types who rely on that when handling discussions as these. <br /><br />You're a judge of spirits through the internet, and I'm glad to see you are gracious toward Glen. Forgive me for responding to you with more abruptness. You come in the middle of a barrage of people logging on and attacking the entire website, and shooting idiocy out of their mouths. You may hate me for what it is you think I believe, and even for what I believe, but I'm convinced we'd do much better over a cup of coffee.Leenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8219781724285312648.post-67305740209535174812010-05-28T19:51:13.355-07:002010-05-28T19:51:13.355-07:00Glen, you dont do a bad job of representing young ...Glen, you dont do a bad job of representing young people in or out of our movement. Questioning is always important. I have gone through the same processes. It has been my experience though that when discussing issues that are controversial or extremely important, it has always been with brothers, in the church who I knew, people who knew me, there was a trust, and a confidence that we were there for one another.<br /><br />That rarely takes place here. That is why I believe even more today in the scripture "where two or three are gathered in my name, there am I in the midst." <br /><br />I know there are situations that exist where people are not able to be in church, although I would also be inclined to believe that many of those people would not be computer savvy. <br /><br />There is something about people coming together, their hearts, their minds, their worship, their physical being. Can you really say that your emotional and spiritual experience rises to the same level on a website as it does, when people gather together to worship.?<br /><br />I know myself, to be with people, with their imperfections, it is almost like you can see the body of Christ come together. It is not a competition thing, it is just this clean, simple coming together, some are excellent in one aspect, while one excels in another area, even something as simple as making a visitor feel comfortable and welcome.<br /><br />I cant imagine leaving a church where I had been for years and not hearing anything from the ministry, But it has nothing to do with the body of Christ, it is merely about the imperfection of man.<br /><br />I would hope Glen that you would find a church, that is based on the gospel as you understand it to be truth. You are as much a part and as important to the body of Christ as any bishop or pastor, they just serve in a different capacity. You are too good a man to allow what someone else has done or not done to interfere with your personal walk.<br /><br />The truth is there is a group of people that God will lead you to, who cherish your input, your fellowship, and your presence. <br /><br />I will tell you a personal testimony that I have never shared, but feel like I should after hearing your experience.<br /><br />Years ago, I became disenfrancised with the church, bitter and just left. <br /><br />My Pastor at the time was as brilliant as they come. College graduate, always taking classes and expanding his knowledge. He could talk philosophy, psychology, church history, and put anyone on this site under the table.<br /><br />A therapist, counselor, Bible teacher and speaker. An incredible human being and an amazing man of God.<br /><br />This is the part for me that is truly embarrassing. When I left the church, I knew I was not ready to talk to him. I lived in an apartment downtown, on the third floor. This incredible, Godly man was so burdened for my soul that he stood on the sidewalk below one day, calling up to me right in the middle of the busy afternoon. I was so stubborn that this relentless love couldnt pierce through, until years later, and it was that love that brought me back to Christ. <br /><br />I am convinced that there are people of God who are just as burdened for you, but dont have the boldness that this man of God showed for me. He still is a pastor of a fine church, and I am so thankful I have had the opportunity to repair my relationship with him. <br /><br />But dont be discouraged Glen, I will tell you again, you have a good spirit, and it comes through on this website. We could all learn something from you, and yes I am speaking to myself also. Thats not bad for a guy who thinks he has come across crass. I will agree that there are some not great people out there, but at the same time, I think there are alot of good. God bless you Glen and have a great weeken.T Rnoreply@blogger.com